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of the plaintiff lawsuits. >> sure does. >> plaintiff attorneys brought the exact same civil case. >> right. >> why do we think this is going to be a new model for anything? >> they say it's a model for the feds and the state attorneys general to work together. new york has this martin act that other attorneys generally in new york have used quite a bit in the past. >> to the extent that they bring more cases like this, civil cases, do you think this does anything to feed the public's lust for whatever you think, whatever you think president obama was trying to go for a year ago when he created this group in. >> if the public is lusting for ceos being perp walked over the financial crieses they're not going to get it with this and may not ever because they haven't been able to build the criminal cases, they're tough to make, if there was criminal conduct you have to get the lower executives to plead or cooperate. >> is there anything to indicate there are criminal cases that could come from these things in. >> this doesn't read like a criminal case. it reads like a civil case, like a lot of the pla
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